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Randy.... Pluto in transit  10-Dec-97

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Pluto conjunct Venus.
Take the deepest, most ardent, most consuming, most passionate love you have ever known, multiply that love by an almost infinite factor ... and in one instant, rip it away.  That’s basically it. Except for a couple of relatively minor points ... a despair so black you wish you were dead and a rage so violently, vehemently murderous that you believe sanity has deserted you.  Yeah, I think that’s most of it.

Syll, you might want to check back to December 2 when I posted a little on Pluto violence. Actually, I might as well re-post the relevant few paragraphs here to save you the trouble. It was the post where one smartarse line kickstarted this Jesus debate, and I was quoting a par from Jeffrey Wolf Green’s second Pluto volume.  "For many of us it can be very difficult NOT to act upon the inherent Plutonian desire to get even, to create relative justice, to right a wrong.

Obviously, this is a very complex and difficult dynamic in life to truly understand, let alone KNOWING what the right thing is to do in any given situation. For those who do have an expanded consciousness that is able to ‘see’ beyond the life that is currently being lived, allowing for a knowing or perception of the original cause in any given karmic situation, the ‘right’ thing to do can be seen. Great. But most of us do not have such an expanded consciousness."

I find this paragraph quite interesting because I think one of the things Pluto symbolises is our own inate capacity for violence.  During some Pluto transits, events happen which bring our Dark Side to the surface.  During the MLC period, in which Pluto squared itself, while conjuncting the Scorpio Venus, I found myself in a murderous rage for over a year. I do mean murderous. I find myself plotting the intricate details of a murder whenever I let go of my brain. I’d be driving to work, thinking about it. I’d fall asleep thinking about it ...  and I mean the fine details, of where to get the necessary materials without rousing suspician so I would get away scot free.

It was a fierce, fierce battle to keep control ... and there were many, many times I honestly thought "I" would lose and that the "Dark Side" would win control ... especially on those occasions when I would find myself in a hardware store, carefully selecting small amounts of certain things that were needed to carry out the plan.  Eventually, it went away.

Okay, it might be that the Saggy Venus natives are not going to react in quite the same intense fashion as the Scorpy ones ... though Danbro’s post would tend to indicate that they will.  It’s actually the first time I’ve seen a piece which gets close to the truth of a Pluto transit.  I’ve commented before that I find the bland writings of astrologers who opine that we look back on Pluto transits as "growth" periods to be a pile of crock.
A Pluto/Venus transit is a bit like trying to stop a baby sucking its thumb by first immersing his hand in boiling tar, followed by smashing it with a sledgehammer, followed by cutting the hand off with a rusty, blunt hacksaw.  By which you might gather that they’re not really terribly nice.

Now, let’s get to the "letting go", the "surrender".  If you’ll pardon my language ... Fat F**king Chance. Not during the transit, darlin’. No way. No how. You see, it doesn’t matter how logical you are, no matter how many rock solid mental decisions you make to "let go", it won’t happen. Not until you REALLY suffer.  I said the despair was so black you would prefer to die.

Sounds dramatic. I’m not talking suicide, though I suspect many probably do under a heavy Pluto influence. I’m saying that if God appeared one day during the transit and said: I’ll give you a choice. This despair will last another two years, but after that you will be incredibly happy for the rest of your life. Or, you can choose to die now.  Let me tell you, you’ll pick the now. Only time, a long time, starts to cure the worst of the Pluto/Venus transits.  And the trick really is to "surrender". And that, in itself, is a death.
I’m not sure how to explain it because the changes are incredibly deep inside.  You emerge, eventually, from this thing ... far more ruthless, and far more gentle, than you went in.  How do I explain this? Well, without wanting to revive a certain recent argument in another place, it’s probably an example of the ruthless/gentle thing. One person posts in open anger and hidden agony about his love experiences. His posts are provacative. A quarrel ensues. But, while the anger is the voice, the Soul is the agony. This is someone to be helped, someone in need of a more gentle advice than returned anger.

And then there is the sudden arrival of another player. Also provocative. There is no anger in this person’s post, simply generalised venom, disguised as some claimed empirical evidence. This one deserves the ruthless side.  I feel a little uncomfortable using the first person’s posts as a particular example, but they are a good one ... a repeating pattern in relationships which, ultimately, proves destructive.  THE BEST WAY OF AVOIDING THE TRAUMA OF A PLUTO TRANSIT IS TO RECOGNISE ONE COMING UP AND START WORKING ON IT BEFOREHAND.  Sometimes, it takes four, or five, or six, failed similar relationships before anyone wakes up they’re in a pattern ... and starts to wonder why.

Anyone heading for a Pluto conjunction, or any hard transit, to Venus should start to give a LOT of thought to their closest relationships and start consciously trying to work out why they act in certain ways when certain buttons are pushed; and how they manipulate, or are manipulated, to get what they want.  Not, I’m afraid, that is any guarantee one will escape. As Danbro’s post, and even Mr Wolf Green’s book, indicates ... what happens during a Pluto transit is often unfair - one could say designed deliberately to bring out a dormant/hidden murderous rage which is probably totally alien to the person experiencing it.

And, yes, eventually you do "grow" from the experience ... the Soul does SEEM to become "in tune" with some higher - or wider, or broader - "force". But at an awful, awful cost.  And this I probably shouldn’t admit ... but I suspect that if one were ever to have a repeat performance, there would be no delay and no fighting against the rage. As I said, one tends to come out of these things far ... FAR ... more ruthless, and more gentle than one went in.  The plus side is the gentle. But part and parcel of it is the ruthless. I honestly don’t know that if I were ever in EXACTLY the same situation again I would commit murder without even giving it a second’s thought. One doesn’t actually know, of course. But I wouldn’t be surprised if you just picked up a gun and went bang. No remorse. No guilt.

Gee, you all didn’t stay this long did yuh???  Anyway, as I said ... that was Scorpio, not Saggies!!! Pluto conjunct Sadge Venusians might be a lot of fun!!!! And I don’t think all the Scorpy Venusians had quite that level of intensity to their transits.  But, reading between the lines, I can think of a few who probably did.
Now, for God’s sake, someone tell a phucking joke!!! We’ve had our dose of The Serious Stuff, so yuh can all go back to Saggy Silliness now.
Catchya - Randy Cell Block "B", San Quentin

(same author) 12-Dec-97

Do you think Pluto ever really achieves all that he wants? I was thinking again of the abduction of Proserpina (Persephone) and of Jupiter’s ruling that Pluto give her back to her mother, Ceres, for six months of each year.  As Danbrosia’s post from Anne Beversdorf indicates, Pluto transits can be a descent into Hell ... a black period, where no daylight shines. During the traumatic part of the Pluto transit we become blind to all possibilities, except the central theme.  It is somewhat akin to Pluto’s abduction of the Vegetation Goddess.  He wants, he takes, he locks away where no-one, nothing can get at her. His commitment is TOTAL. It is compulsive/obsessive. It is black ... with no white, and no shades of grey. It is total POWER over Proserpina.  This is a Pluto transit.
You want. You demand!! You NEED. And, basically, you can’t have it.  As the old legend, and Ms Beversdorf, point out ... one, eventually, is forced to "surrender" to a higher power.  In Pluto’s case, it was Jupiter.  In the case of those who actually act out the rage which often accompanies a Pluto transit, it is "surrender" to the "higher power" of the police, the courts, and the jails.  In the case of those who eventually come to terms with the transit, the "higher power" is "spiritual".  Get the nuances here? The real power is Jupiter.  The God himself, in Pluto’s case.  Courts and jails (9th and 12th), or a "higher spirit" (9th and 12th) in the other two cases.

I’m not sure where my befuddled brain in heading with this in a Merc Rx period, but, while I was thinking about this ... the thought occured to me that it might also hold true for the other two Transpersonal planets, Uranus and Neptune.  Do any of them ever get all that they really want? Uranus supposedly symbolises this "broad humanity" concept; Neptune a "oneness" with the "Cosmic consciousness". Think of the true Uranians you know. Arseholes. The kind of people who bulldoze aged grandmothers from their homes to build a new freeway for "the greater good".  Think of the true Neptunians you know. Fruitcakes.  They’re usually floating on Cloud Nine ... from the drugs, or the pixie dust someone pumped into their brain instead of little grey cells.  And the true Plutonians. Murderers.  They’re either Mafia bosses, Triad bosses, politicians, or junior policemen.

I spoke a little earlier in the week about the eventual outcomes from Pluto trauma ... about how one emerges simultaneously more ruthless and more gentle.  What I didn’t speak about was the absence of "need", "want" and "demand" after one "surrenders".  Since we were talking about Venus, I’ll continue on the relationship topic ... and I want to touch briefly on Poupou’s post about Taurean/Venusian values. I think we all understand that the second house isn’t simply about material goods. Most importantly, it’s about the "values" you can’t put in a display case ... the ones you live by day-in, day-out, through this, and maybe other, lifetimes.  In short, one comes out of a Pluto/Venus transit with a new set of relationship values.  It doesn’t mean you give up any idea of ever having a relationship.  But the aching "need" to be in a relationship no longer applies. You continue to search, to experiment. But, you are prone to recognise in the very, VERY early stages whether it is going to go anywhere.  And, if it’s not, there is no hanging on ... and, gently, you ease yourself out of it, trying to cause no pain to the other party.  And you sit there, perfectly at ease and content with your own company ... happy with who you are, and happy to be with yourself.
For the other part of the transit aftermath is that never again will near enough be good enough.  Having known the "agony and the ecstasy" of what is possible, any sort of second prize is unacceptable.  You enter into ALL new relationships with no strings attached, no manipulation, almost no expectation. This does NOT mean you have become some sort of emotional vacuum. Far, FAR from it. But, you now recognise ... truly recognise ... that the only things worth having are the things people choose, of their own free will, to give us. I’ll give you this, if you do this for me ... well, that just doesn’t cut it anymore. Ditto for: "I’ll love you more ... IF".  You enter into new relationships simply because you want to ... if you want to, when you want to - without any of the negative connotations associated with the word "want". There is no compulsion, no obsession.  There is a total absence of the "need" factor. Of course, there are still the likes and dislikes ... but, even these, tend to lose the "edge" they might once have had. You’d "like" a shoulder massage? If it is given freely, you’ll accept it and enjoy it. If it is given grudgingly, it will be the last time you ask. In future, you’ll just pick up the phone and organise a professional massage. No hassle, no problem, no lingering mild resentment.

I think Ms Beverdorf is perfectly correct. Whatever it is that you want, need, demand under a Pluto transit, you cannot have. Like Pluto himself, you will be forced, one way or another, to "surrender" all "power".  If you’ve stayed this long ... breathe a sigh of relief. It’s almost over.  I was wondering whether Pluto’s conjunctions to Sagitarrian Venusians would have the same intensity as the Scorpio transits.  And I suspect not.  Pluto, of course, does symbolise intensity. And so does Scorpio. And, so, especially is a Scorpy Venus.  But, Saggy Baggy is definitely NOT an intensity addict.  In fact, it’s probably much closer to the opposite than a Taurean, whose possessiveness and jealousy are almost akin to Scorpio, albiet in a somewhat different form.  But, the Sagster is a freedom junkie. The Scorpy Venus is, largely, monogamous.  The Saggy Venus, largely, is not.  The Scorpy Venus wants to lose herself in mind-blowing sex.  The Saggy Venus wants a romp.  So, I suspect the Scorpio transits symbolised a double-dose of intensity ... bringing out all those Scorpy traits ... the deep commitment, the jealousy, the rage.  And, I suspect, the Saggy transits will bring out the Sagster traits.  There will be intensity, rage, jealousy and obsession because these are Pluto symbols ... and it may be the first time the Saggy Venusian really experiences them at full force.   What the Saggy Venusians MIGHT experience is having the tables turned.  For the first time, they will become intensely obsessed with someone ... someone who suddenly demands freedom, independence, polygamy, and who rides off over the far horizon.

But, the other reason I suspect the Saggy transits will not be as intense, is the old legend and what follows from it.    Jupiter is Boss Man. And that, ultimately, cannot be changed. As Iindicated earlier, the outcomes of "surrender" tend towards a Jupiterian flavor, either 9th or 12th.  With Pluto in Sagitarrius, the outcomes might just come a little quicker ... and easier.

Randy
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